Best Of '99: Boston Promoter Says Hole Dropping Off Manson Tour
[Editor's note: Over the holiday season, SonicNet is looking back at 1999's top stories, chosen by our editors and writers. This story originally ran on Friday, March 12.]
Less than a day after Hole leader Courtney Love took to the airwaves to
say her band might be leaving its co-headlining tour with Marilyn Manson,
a Boston promoter announced Hole have already dropped off the double
bill.
In addition, Hole's publicist cited Love's threats to pull her band off
the outing and could not confirm the band's participation in the tour
beyond Sunday.
"The band Hole [have] pulled out of the co-headlining tour with Marilyn
Manson," read the press release from the Cambridge, Mass.-based Don Law concert promotions company. The release went on to say Manson would still headline an April 9 Worcester, Mass., Centrum date.
The release was sent to a number of alternative rock radio stations in
the Boston area, according to Pamela Fallon, public relations director
at Don Law, who said she did not know the source of the information.
WBCN (104.1-FM) afternoon DJ Bill Abbate said he read the notice over
the air during his Friday (March 12) show.
A spokesperson for Hole's management company, Q Prime, would not comment
on the Law release.
"... I am not confirming that," Hole spokesperson Gayle Fine said Friday
afternoon. "We have made no announcement to that effect and if people
are going to the [Saturday night] Anaheim [Calif.] show, they will see
Hole."
Just seven dates into their first joint tour, Hole and Marilyn Manson
seem to have reached a critical juncture that could compel them to go
their separate ways.
Hole leader Courtney Love said in a phone interview Thursday with cable
music channel MTV the tour has serious "production issues" that may
doom the joint outing. Though the bands played together at Sacramento,
Calif.'s Arco Arena on Thursday and will play the Pond in Anaheim on
Saturday, Love said there was a good chance Hole will quit the tour.
The double bill was initially dubbed the "Beautiful Monsters" tour by
Hole bassist Melissa Auf Der Maur and later titled by Manson's namesake
leader (born Brian Warner) the "Rock is Dead" tour. Apparently mocking
the conflict between Manson and Hole, the goth-turned-glam singer was
credited with renaming the tour recently "Hole Is Dead" on the band's
official website.
"The bands will meet over the weekend to discuss the issues," Love said
in the MTV interview. She would not detail the production concerns that
are causing friction between the bands.
A representative for Manson could not be reached by press time.
As of Friday afternoon four of the tour's next seven dates were still
confirmed, according to venue representatives.
The outing, which kicked off in Spokane, Wash., on Feb. 28, has been
rife with the kind of back-and-forth sniping many expected between the
outspoken Love and Manson.
While Fine assured fans with tickets to the Anaheim date and Sunday's
show at Los Angeles' Forum that Hole would be on the bill those nights,
she was noncommittal about future tour stops. When questioned about the
next scheduled show, a March 16 date at San Diego's Sports Arena, Fine
said, "I don't know about that date, it goes back to what Courtney said
[in the MTV interview]."
If the tour were to continue without Hole, one tour industry expert said
Manson would be hard-pressed to fill the 10-18,000 seat venues into
which the 35-date outing is booked. "Historically, Manson has gotten
arena-level press but not sold out arenas," said Gary Bongiovanni,
editor-in-chief of tour industry trade magazine Pollstar.
The bands have been subtly — and not so subtly — ribbing each other
every chance they could get from the stage each night. Love and her band
were reported to have left the stage after 45 minutes during a Spokane
show in reaction to her apparent disappointment with the audience.
At the following stop March 2 at Vancouver, Canada's PNE Coliseum,
Manson reportedly made a lewd remark about the Hole leader that prompted
Love to run onstage and jump on the singer's back during his band's
performance.
In two separate interviews published Tuesday in the San Francisco
Examiner and Wednesday in the San Francisco Chronicle, Manson
referred to Love as "a bitch" and said before the tour, Hole was the "last
band in the world I would ever, ever want to tour with." When asked if any cows would be sacrificed when the bands performed at the Cow Palace Wednesday, Manson quipped, "Well ... there's always Courtney."
The onstage ribbing continued unabated at the Cow Palace show.
Between raw versions of such Hole staples as the set-opening
(RealAudio excerpt) and the band's next single,
(RealAudio excerpt), Love took swipes at Manson for what she suggested
was his band's over-the-top, flashy production. "Sorry if we don't have
any pyro," Love said. "We're sort of all about the music."
Near the end of Hole's set, Love polled the audibly Manson-partisan audience as to whether they wanted her band to continue. When the crowd responded encouragingly, Love issued a winking apology for her band's lack of stage accoutrements.
"I guess you're sort of waiting for the pyrotechnics show," Love said. "We don't know how to do fire and stuff. We're just a rock 'n' roll band, you little sh--s." Love concluded her onstage comments by implying that she'd "feel like a dork" if her band offered the sort of stage show that followed.
While Manson kept his barbs to a minimum while onstage, he did take an
opportunity, after an over-the-top version of his hit
(RealAudio excerpt), to take a verbal swipe at Love, the mother of a
toddler: "Let me ask you all an honest question," Manson, dressed in a
shiny, silver two-piece outfit, said. "How many of you are here to see
Marilyn f---ing Manson?" After the crowd erupted in a howl, the lanky
singer, whose forehead was painted a deep blue, added, "I show pity for
the older people on this tour ... the graying mothers."
On the same website posting that renamed the tour "Hole Is Dead," a
comment attributed to Manson read: "Due to extreme problems being
caused by Hole, we were unable to attend the aftershows ... it appears
to be a war between us and Hole. I don't expect them to last very long."