"I think the whole thing of punk music starting in the '70s is everyone was

sick of conceptual albums and these cock-rock, limousine, cocaine rock stars

and having to go to music school and graduate to be in a band and singing

about nothingness. Punk music not only brought fun back into music but it

brought reality back into it, similar to when the rap thing began. In the

'60s, black music was confined to singing happy, Motown love songs, and rap

was a rebellion against that, like, 'No, man, I live in the fucking ghetto,

and I'm fucking angry.' Punk music was the same thing because back then you

had Miller's Outpost saying you could be a star at Miller's Outpost:

'Dress this way and listen to this.' And we were just saying, 'Fuck that,

we don't want that, we have our own frickin' ideas and our own values and

our own style, and we're gonna do it. And if you tell us that we can't,

that's only gonna make us do it more.' " -- Mike Ness, Social Distortion singer and guitarist