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‘The Stakes’: Ava DuVernay Makes The Case For Prison Abolition

Another week, another (sort of) political podcast

Welcome to “The Stakes,” MTV’s relentlessly political podcast. Coming up on the show today:

Part 1: Jamil Smith sits down with Ava DuVernay to talk about 13th, her new documentary about mass incarceration.

Part 2: Kaleb Horton and Ana Marie Cox reflect on their summer at the Republican and Democratic conventions, and what they tell us about the coming election.

Part 3: Julie Zeilinger talks to author Jessica Luther about her new book on the relationship between college sports culture and how sexual assault against women is silenced.

Part 4: We close out our show with a piece of poetry by MTV News writer and tireless social activism correspondent Marcus Ellsworth. This one is called “A memory of self care through an afternoon with a dear friend.”

Thanks for being with us on this journey, internet. We’ll be back at you on Sunday night, following the presidential debate, with another installment of “Stakes After Dark (SAD!).” You can subscribe to our show and other fine MTV Podcasts productions on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, and Spotify.