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‘The Stakes’: What Comes Next

Another week, another (sort of) political podcast

Welcome back to “The Stakes.” Coming up on the show this week:

Part 1: Jamil Smith speaks with Earledreka White — the black woman who called 911 after being pulled over by a police officer for a traffic stop, and then was violently arrested — about what happened, and how it’s affected her life.

Part 2: Ana Marie Cox talks to Christian Picciolini, a man who helps former white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and extreme right activists leave those kinds of hate groups through his organization Life After Hate.

Part 3: Jane Coaston speaks with Betty Okino, one of the legendary black gymnasts who paved the way for Simone Biles.

Part 4: Our poet-in-residence Marcus Ellsworth speaks to the power of pronouns and self-determination.

Want more? We've got a bonus episode of "The Stakes" for all you Olympic gymnastics stans, featuring Jane Coaston's full interview with Betty Okino.

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