"It was bad timing, but it was absolutely an honest emotion. We all felt like that. We didn't feel like Katrina was a natural disaster. We felt like it as an attack on black people. All you saw was black people on the roof with HELP signs. ... White people felt like that."
-Hip-hop elder statesman Jay-Z, discussing the incident back in 2005 that saw Kanye West declare that George W. Bush didn't "care about black people" during a telethon benefiting victims of Hurricane Katrina. During an hour-long conversation on Howard Stern's Sirius satellite radio show on Monday morning (November 15), Jigga touched on a number of key topics, including his early days in Brooklyn's Marcy Projects, his relationship with his wife Beyoncé and his run-ins with President Obama. But he talked at great length about West, whose words from five years ago have come back around again thanks to George W. Bush's declaration that said moment was one of the worst moments of his presidency.
Jay also addressed West's 2009 MTV Video Music Awards moment with Taylor Swift, which West initiated because he thought Beyoncé had made the superior video. "It's bittersweet in a lot of ways," he said about West's interruption of Swift's acceptance speech. "If we look back, everyone would agree that he was right. It was bad timing. It was not her fault. It's not Taylor Swift's fault. She didn't nominate ... she didn't elect herself. She just sat there and she had a dream and she's seeing that dream being realized, and he had the same dream, so he realizes that now. He was fighting for the integrity of the award, and he knows how hard he works on his videos. It was bad timing, but we agreed."