Kevin Smith Promises Full-Frontal Nudity In ‘Porno,’ Despite R Rating

Director chats about Seth Rogen's improv skills and defending movie against NC-17 rating.

It was a little over a year ago that Kevin Smith first talked to MTV News about his new movie while reporter and subject stood against a wall outside the Crazy 4 Cult Art Show in West Hollywood.

It’s becoming a trend.

With filming wrapped and public showings about to start for Smith’s latest, we once again joined the celebrated director at the very same parking lot to tie up recent loose ends, including the amount of improv in the movie, what films he cited to get an R rating and whose naked body you finally get to see in all its glory.

(Click here to find out what subtle connections “Zack and Miri” has to other Smith films on the MTV Movies Blog.)

MTV: When we spoke to you about “Zack and Miri” last year, both you and Rogen teased a shot of full-frontal nudity . So do we get to see the jewels on display?

Smith: Yeah! You get one definitive ba– shot then you get a bonus ba– shot in the movie later on. It’s all of . You get to see every inch of Mewes in this movie.

MTV: I take it that the tuck shot of him in wasn’t enough?

Smith: I was gonna say we came close, and this time we were like, “Why are we tucking? It’s got ‘Porno’ in the title.” He was rather courageous about it. … Took him a while to be convinced, though. It was shocking, actually, how long it took me to convince him, considering that this is a dude that if you know him five minutes will take his co– out anyway. But the idea, I guess, of doing it on film — preserving it — gave him a slight pause. And then he immediately was like, “OK, I’m gonna do it.”

MTV: How graphic do you get with the sex in the film?

Smith: Apparently graphic enough that they gave us an NC-17 .

MTV: Which was appealed successfully.

Smith: Right, they flipped it and gave us an R. And then a few days later, I was up at Skywalker [Sound] doing the mix — a playback. So we watched the flick from end to end, and at the end of it I was like, “They might have had a point!” I got so dialed in on the two moments they focused on — I clearly didn’t think those were NC-17 moments to this day, but then when I sat back and watched the entire flick, I was like, “They have a point.” I’m not saying they were right, but I’m saying it’s pretty out there.

MTV: In another interview recently you said you had to bring in supporting materials to bolster your appeal [to the MPAA]. What films did you cite?

Smith: Right. Well, you don’t bring them — you’re not allowed to bring clips — but you can cite precedent. So for the sex stuff, ’cause there were two moments that they zeroed in on — one was a sex scene and one was a 14-frame shot, not even a second long — so for the sex stuff, they were like, “There’s lots of thrusting. It’s very gratuitous.” I cited with and . There’s a sex scene where they f— on a dresser that’s insanely titillating. Looks real. All the sex in our movie, none of it looks like that. It’s a comedically drawn caricature of not just sex, but porno sex. We live in the age of the Internet. If teenagers wanted to be titillated, it’s not going to be by this movie, it’s going to be some hard-core pornography. That seemed to work [with the MPAA].

MTV: So there isn’t any sex in the movie that’s actually erotic?

Smith: There’s one scene in the movie that sex is played straightforward, but it’s the one scene where there’s the least flesh on display. And that is a very passionately charged, sweet scene, so that one they never focused on. [The actors are] fully clad during it. We play it mostly on their faces.

MTV: I’m just shocked you didn’t cite

Smith: I didn’t even think to cite “Boogie Nights” ’cause I thought that would have been too obvious!

MTV: told us a few months ago about his penchant for ad-libbing being an initial concern. How much ad-libbing ultimately wound up in the film?

Smith: There’s like 20 to 25 percent ad-libbing in the movie. The genius of Rogen is that that dude can ad-lib and every bit is useable in a way that feels insanely organic — it moves the scene and plot forward. You welcome a dude like that — not only can he execute, but he can elevate. Having him was a blessing. His ad-libs don’t stick out like a sore thumb: “That’s a Kevin Smith line, that’s a Seth Rogen line.”

MTV: All the attention so far has been on Rogen and . Is there a supporting performance in the film you think will resonate?

Smith: I think and are the two that are going to surprise people. Craig is kind of the old soul of the movie, so to speak, and has this gentility and kindness to him even though his character is kinda crass. He plays Delaney, who is Zack’s friend at the coffee shop where they work. They recruit him to be the producer. He puts up the money for the movie. He’s the one people are like, “Wow, who is that guy?”

MTV: You’re known for being outrageously self-deprecating. Is there a shot or sequence in this film you’re most proud of?

Smith: There is, absolutely. I think it’s our most visually interesting movie to date — that seems to be the compliment from a lot of people, including Bob Weinstein. So there’s a sequence in the movie that features some slow-mo — It features Seth and Elizabeth. I think it’s just beautiful, and I’m so proud of it.

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