A more subdued Courtney Love called “The Howard Stern Show” Friday morning (February 13), and the host once again tried to play “Judge Stern,” asking her to consider their conversation an “intervention.”
Love appeared more receptive to the shock jock’s wisdom this time around, although she was defensive about how Thursday’s call had gone. “I called you only because I’m loyal to you,” Love said, “but you called me paranoid.”
“I don’t even know that I got a word in,” Stern responded.
The pair’s chat a day before had been more combative, with Love often shouting over Stern and co-host Robin Quivers (see “Courtney Love Phones ‘Judge’ Howard Stern’s Radio Show” ). Though they covered much of the same ground as before, this time Stern gave the singer a stronger dose of tough love, asking her to consider why she was turning to him when they didn’t know each other that well except for their talks on his show.
“Losing your kid is your fault,” Stern said. “I know you don’t want to hear this.”
“How?” she asked.
“When you don’t show up for court …” he began, referring to the hearing she missed on Wednesday (see “Courtney Love Misses Court Date, Cites ‘Security Concerns’ “ ).
“That judge is cool,” she said. “He knew there was a guy down there with a gun, it’s fine. But the big thing with the bench warrant, it’s a joke bench warrant. He wasn’t going to arrest me. He knows I was going to be there. There was a guy down there with a gun! … I was two minutes away.”
Stern suggested that offering excuses for failing to appear would not help her in court. Instead, he said, she should apologize to Los Angeles Superior Court judges Elden S. Fox and Patricia M. Schnegg and promise to not let it happen again. Love insisted that she hadn’t actually lost custody of her daughter, Frances Bean (see “Courtney Love Fighting For Custody Of Daughter Frances Bean” ).
“Is she at your house?” Stern asked.
“No, she’s not at my house,” Love said. “She can’t sleep at my house for another two weeks.”
“Why so long?” he asked.
“Because I have a very slow lawyer. And I have to [be drug-tested] for a month,” she said.
Stern advised her to comply with any and all court orders. He said she should reiterate to the judges that she intends to prove herself a sane and responsible adult who wants nothing more than to get her daughter back and her life under control. Regarding her drug charges, Stern told her to ask for “a second chance” and request probation, or change her plea to guilty so she can replace jail time with a drug-diversion program (see “Love Pleads Not Guilty To Felony Drug Charges, Asks For Rehab” ).
Love countered that she couldn’t talk about the case in detail on the air because she feared her radio appearances would be used against her, and she didn’t think his advice fit her situation. “I’m not going to take probation, because I didn’t commit a crime,” she said. “You don’t know the truth, and you’re making a lot of assumptions.”
Love said she was being targeted because she’s a “controversial rock star” and “the only female rock star who’s a single mother.” Quivers and Stern countered that Madonna was a single mother when she first raised Lourdes and that Yoko Ono had raised Sean Lennon alone as well. “Hardly,” Love argued. “Madonna had Carlos [Leon]. So I guess I’m going to quit being a rock star. What do you want from me? An apron and an apple pie? I stayed home for five years. I haven’t done heroin since 1996. I’m a good mother. I’ve done a good job.”
Love said she worked late at night so she could be available during the day for her daughter, who has had the same two nannies, “the same regime,” since she was 4. Love then boasted that Frances Bean is a model child. “If you met her, you’d be shocked,” she said. “She’s no Kelly Osbourne. She doesn’t cuss or swear.”
Stern suggested to Love that her responses were too sarcastic and would be misinterpreted. “Just don’t say anything,” he said. “Don’t talk.”
“Ms. Love,” he continued in his Judge Stern persona, “this court is disgusted with your behavior.”
“Why?” she asked.
“Nuh-uh,” he said. “You talked!”
“Oh, Howard,” she sighed.
“It’s hard,” he said. “They’re going to insult you. Just don’t talk.”
“I’ve got to get out of this,” she said. “I don’t even know how I got into this.”
At the end of the program, Love promised to attend her next scheduled court hearing on Tuesday.