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MTV: So with all three of them leaving the band, was it artistic differences? Were the splits acrimonious, or friendly, or what?

DG: I think that in Pat's case, he just didn't want to be in the band. You know, it's a hard thing to talk about, something as personal as a friend leaving a band. I've known Franz for a really long time, and it's tough to talk about something that was painful for everyone. I mean, it's tough because the other person's not around to respond and talk about it with you, and it's the kind of thing that everybody wants to know, but at the end of the day, music is the most important thing. And the three of us here have a great relationship where we collaborate well.

The role and stature of each person in this band is very important, and it's important for the band to feel that the chain is linked, and the three of us definitely are. I've had more fun recording and making this record than any record I've ever made in my entire life, because it was so relaxed and we lived with each other for, like, five months, and we're about to go live with each other for another year-and-a-half on a bus.

TH: This could be the last record.

DG: Exactly. [Laughter]

MTV: Are you going to launch a tour right before the record comes out?

DG: I don't know what the deal is. It would be nice before going out on tour to go and play a bunch of clubs, but not make it the intimate club tour kind of thing. We opened up for a cover band in a bar recently, and that kind of thing is fun. That seems to be the best rehearsal, in some dive that has no sound system and no monitors.

MTV: You dropped off this year's Woodstock. What did you think when you saw what was going down?

DG: Altamont, man! Altamont!

TH: We weren't ready to play it, anyway. We were still working on this album. We watched it. It was on pay-per-view and it was really hot and sounded kind of crappy.

DG: I really didn't expect it to be as insane as it was.

MTV: What do you think brought all the rage on?

TH: It's all Marilyn Manson's fault.

DG: I think that it has a lot to do with this collective uncertainty. People don't have anything to believe in. They don't believe in the music, or maybe they don't believe in each other.

NM: A lot of people just like to light sh** on fire and riot. You don't need to get into a lot of theorizing. You get a big crowd of people together and...

TH: Yeah, it's just frat boys and poor 16-year-old girls taking off their tops, getting hammered in the sun all day. Eighteen-year-old kids drive up there to rage for the weekend, out there taking ecstasy and drinking 150 beers. It's going to be bad, man, it's going to be real bad.

 "Big Me"
Foo Fighters
(Capitol)
DG: We've never had a problem with violence at our shows, fortunately. I don't know if we attract that kind of crowd. But if it's happening at a Dave Matthews concert, it seems like it can happen everywhere. There'll be riots outside the Barbra Streisand tour... just a bunch of people keying each others' Lexuses and stuff. [Laughter]

MTV: Would you consider getting a corporate sponsor for your tour?

NM: Is that a question that you ask bands now? Are people doing that? I thought that was only the Rolling Stones.

MTV: Like, Backstreet Boys are with Sears now...

DG: Do they wear Toughskins? Big baggy Toughskins with Sears undies hanging out?

NM: We're a punk rock band, we can't do that.

DG: We've been fortunate; we've never needed tour support. If you don't need money to put gas in the van and you don't need money to get a bus, then why would you need an extra fifty grand to put a Coca Cola banner in the background? No, I don't think that we're into that. Of course, in about a year we'll be on the Silver Bullet bus, handing out beers to children.

MTV: Do you worry that when you start touring again, people are still going to be throwing Mentos?

NM: I hope for their sake that they don't.

DG: That's so 1995, man.


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