Hoppus: We took the budget that they gave us to make a video and just went out and blew the money. We took a homeless guy to a day spa, we bought a car and dropped it off a crane [and] we gave money away on the streets. We bought TVs and smashed them on the street. Everyone spends so much on their video — it costs half a million dollars to make a video — so we thought, "Why pay for expensive lights and cameras and stuff? Why don't we just go blow the cash?"

MTV: Because of the success of the last album, did you have a bigger budget to do everything, from the video to the album?

Hoppus: I think, honestly, that all videos are probably made the exact same way. But for some reason, when a band first starts off, a video costs $50,000. Then, once they go gold, it goes up to $100,000. No matter what, we could make this video for $50,000, but because we've gone platinum a few times, they charge us $500,000. [RealAudio]

MTV: How was your recent club tour?

Hoppus: That was all small club shows, just to get back into playing live and just because we love playing club shows so much. We grew up in the punk-rock scene, and it's something that's important to us, so we just wanted to go play these tiny venues.

MTV: Was that a good way to test out a lot of the new material?

Hoppus: Definitely, because we're not very good live and it takes a while to learn our own songs. ... It was good to go out [where] only a couple thousand kids would see us [massacre our new songs] instead of 10,000.

MTV: Is there one song that sums up what the album is about for you?

Hoppus: I don't think there is one song that defines this album. I think that this album is a lot wider in scope than our other ones have been. We have a range from really fast punk songs to slower, more emo songs.

MTV: Is it harder to make a concert set list now that you have another album's worth of songs to play?