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 A Perfect Circle, live, in New York, 08.05.2003







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Loder: You're kind of a remote guy as a performer, wearing those wigs and dresses onstage ...

Keenan: That started when I had a son. That's the main reason for the makeup, the wigs, the bras, whatever you've seen in the past with Tool. I just like the incognito aspect, because now I can wander around even where I live and not really be hassled too much. I just think it's really unfair for my child to have to be victimized by my career — you know, here you are signing autographs in the 7-11. It seems ridiculous to me. And I try not to be in my videos.

  A Perfect Circle, live, in New York, 08.05.2003
Loder: You don't like to look at yourself?

Keenan: No.

Loder: What kind of music did you grow up liking?

Keenan: Joni Mitchell. I think everything Joni Mitchell did for music was big. I was really influenced by her.

Loder: Did it pain you to hear "Big Yellow Taxi" sampled by Janet Jackson on "Got 'Til It's Gone"?

Keenan: It was agonizing. But ... Joni Mitchell, PJ Harvey, Björk. Growing up, I was really into Aerosmith and AC/DC.

Loder: Do you like classical music?

Keenan: A little bit. I wouldn't be able to spout off my favorite piece, but I definitely appreciate what goes into it. When Bach and Beethoven and all of those guys were doing their thing, it was an absolute pinnacle of our consciousness, and ever since then we've been re-exploring different avenues of it. The same argument could be made about the Beatles: Ever since the Beatles, there's been a regurgitation, trying to figure out how to reinvent that wheel.

Loder: What do you make of the current state of the music business, and the illegal downloading the record companies say is siphoning off their profits?

Keenan: There is still a future with music, because people want music. But I don't know if the record labels will be involved. The panic you're seeing now is basically coming from the labels trying to figure out how they're gonna monopolize and manipulate and suck the blood out of artists anymore.

Loder: Are you opposed to file-sharing?

Keenan: Not necessarily. But I wish people would realize what an artist normally makes on the sale of an album. Nowadays, you have to sell, like, half a million or a million records just to break even. And how many bands sell a million records? Not that many.

Loder: Then there are the acts that get signed to, like, $60 million record deals ...

Keenan: Well, I've never gotten that deal. I'm not Mariah Carey.

Loder: Did you ever see her movie, "Glitter"?

Keenan: No.

Loder: It's fabulous, you've really gotta see it. It's right up there with "Battlefield Earth."

Keenan: "Battlefield Earth" is the pinnacle. It's a pure film, pure art. You can put it on, and within seconds of having put it on, you forget you're watching a movie and you walk off and make toast or something. Nothing memorable happens. It's just ... two hours are all of a sudden just gone. Which is not like a movie like "The Postman," which has a whole different effect. That one stretches time. You're like, Oh, man, I'm getting older as I'm watching this. I've missed three birthdays.

Loder: Are you a political person?

  "I've seen this story before..."
Keenan: I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story before.

I think people in general have neglected to learn about history. But then it hasn't really been a focus of our government to make us an educated people. Just in general, any government throughout history hasn't really wanted its people to be educated, because then they couldn't control them as easily. If the education of our kids comes from radio, television, newspapers — if that's where they get most of their knowledge from, and not from the schools, then the powers that be are definitely in charge, because they own all those outlets.

Loder: OK, on that note, do you have anything to say to your fans?

Keenan: Turn off your television. Go do something.




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